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that is what joe biden did for obama in '08. that was the counter to john mccain. and they haven't done that. and i -- it's going to be difficult for them tdo that in the next couple weeks. and gog into that la debate e ey'rgoing to b talking about this stuff, this is going be an issue, they're going to need to frame that up before they get there or it's going to be difficult for them to have much of a debate among, no, i'm better, i'm worse. >> i feel like we're in an unsustainable spot. these issues areeing forced to dssevf can't be forced into the politics. i feel like reckoning is coming on this in political terms. john stanton, "buzz feed's" d.c. bureau chief. you do great work. >> pleasure to be here. >>> all right. are you a college student? do you know any college students? do you have any sense of how college students will vote this ar itheyote? a buncof political vigilantes who know how college students are likely to vote this year have figured out how to stop students from doing it. it is a very simple strategy and it is very stupid, and that's next. tdd
that is what joe biden did for obama in '08. that was the counter to john mccain. and they haven't done that. and i -- it's going to be difficult for them tdo that in the next couple weeks. and gog into that la debate e ey'rgoing to b talking about this stuff, this is going be an issue, they're going to need to frame that up before they get there or it's going to be difficult for them to have much of a debate among, no, i'm better, i'm worse. >> i feel like we're in an unsustainable spot....
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and, remember, there was a little guy named joe biden who was 29 years old in 1972, the year of the nixon landslide, swept delaware. nixon swept delaware, and biden came out of nowhere as a local official to defeat a former governor and an incumbent senator. so, you know, strange things happen especially in small states when you can campaign person to person. >> it's interesting, larry, the tone you just described, the biden story is how the republicans and some independents are describing scott brown, this little guy with his pickup truck coming in and sweeping through massachusetts. my last question has to do with unemployment. the unemployment number does not look any better, at least the estimates for the midterm election, perhaps even a bit worse the number of people out of jobs. so even though it is only january, the outlook for the number of folks who will be out of work and could be out of work is not good for november. >> yes, and if the unemployment number is still well above 9%, if it's anywhere close to where it is today at 10%, you can pretty much count on republican house ga
and, remember, there was a little guy named joe biden who was 29 years old in 1972, the year of the nixon landslide, swept delaware. nixon swept delaware, and biden came out of nowhere as a local official to defeat a former governor and an incumbent senator. so, you know, strange things happen especially in small states when you can campaign person to person. >> it's interesting, larry, the tone you just described, the biden story is how the republicans and some independents are...
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o'donnell was the senate nominee back in 2008 but lost the race to long-time senator joe biden. didn't she? well, yesterday, conservative radio host dan gaffney who backed o'donnell in '08 called her out on her claim that she had won two of the state's three counties. i love it when they get caught. let's listen. >> when you were speaking at an out of state group recently and you told them that you won two out of three counties in delaware, what did you mean? >> i don't think i ever said i won two out of three counties but i -- >> well, let's listen to the audio. hold on one second because i have the audio right here. >> i was the 2008 endorsed candidate against joe biden and i won in two counties. i didn't have the support of our liberal republicans then. >> you said you won in two counties. >> you know what that probably was? you're on the campaign trail a lot. i meant tied. >> she didn't tie. they said in world war ii loose lips sink ships. this candidate's claim of having won two of delaware's three keenz isn't true. voters take note. also, that mr. dan gaffney is not to be
o'donnell was the senate nominee back in 2008 but lost the race to long-time senator joe biden. didn't she? well, yesterday, conservative radio host dan gaffney who backed o'donnell in '08 called her out on her claim that she had won two of the state's three counties. i love it when they get caught. let's listen. >> when you were speaking at an out of state group recently and you told them that you won two out of three counties in delaware, what did you mean? >> i don't think i ever...
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this being joe biden making a campaign speech. bob king, the crowd there the vice president was speaking to. bob, it's nice to have you here this morning. >> good to be here. >> the obama administration got behind the auto bailout that turned into this political hot potato. now we have the economic positive numbers that everybody wants to get behind. here's more from the vice president emphasizing that point. take a listen. >> folks, that's exactly what we have. a president with the courage of his convictions. he made the tough call and the verdict is in. president obama was right and they were dead wrong. >> so bob, this was a bet on the american people. the american workforce that the president put himself on a political limb for. now it's paid off. what has this meant to the auto workers who don't just see in the overall profits for gm and chrysler, but in the success of the brand and the bounceback that it's had. >> well, for auto workers and families and more importantly for communities across america, it means manufacturing
this being joe biden making a campaign speech. bob king, the crowd there the vice president was speaking to. bob, it's nice to have you here this morning. >> good to be here. >> the obama administration got behind the auto bailout that turned into this political hot potato. now we have the economic positive numbers that everybody wants to get behind. here's more from the vice president emphasizing that point. take a listen. >> folks, that's exactly what we have. a president...
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. >> i think that joe biden is going to draw up big. everyone wants to know if everyone's going to do it. to some extent i think it will be like nascar. is he going to make a mistake? the democrats have argued that romney's claim during last week's debate, it's actually a plan to cut $5 billion in taxes, but he did it again tonight on cnn just a short time ago. the obama attacks are false, let's see what you think here. >> he ignores the fact that they're going to limit the deduction and -- he ignores that part. obviously that was corrected by the deputy campaign manager who stipulated the $5 trillion number was wrong. it's completely wrong. the combination of limiting deductions as well as growth of our economy will make up for the reduction in rate. >> bob shrum, thank got in the rest of this discussion with wolf blitzer, he clarified the fact he's going to cut $5 trillion in revenue, a lot of it from wealthy people. >>> he's not going to the bank, he's going to let that tax cut stand. you can call it a lie, he's cutting taxes for the
. >> i think that joe biden is going to draw up big. everyone wants to know if everyone's going to do it. to some extent i think it will be like nascar. is he going to make a mistake? the democrats have argued that romney's claim during last week's debate, it's actually a plan to cut $5 billion in taxes, but he did it again tonight on cnn just a short time ago. the obama attacks are false, let's see what you think here. >> he ignores the fact that they're going to limit the...
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but it looks like joe biden and hillary are going to be in there. i don't know that i can bear to think about 2016. but anything is possible is what i would say at this point. here is the thing about joe biden, he has street credit. think about when he went to the naacp. he felt he was natural and he had credibility with the audience. he was able to talk about the things that mattered to the audience. that is part of what he has brought to the white house. he was also a part of the foreign policy team. maybe it will be hillary clinton and maybe they will all three get in the room and say okay you go. we'll see. >> we were showing video of the joy with which joe biden approaches one of his ceremonial functions of swearing in of new senators. let's hear what he had to say. >> hey mom. how are you? good to see you. i'm joe biden. come on mom. take a chaps. would you take a picture of this quickly. guys other than my mother this is the finest lady i have known. look, in my house there are mothers and then something else and something else and then there
but it looks like joe biden and hillary are going to be in there. i don't know that i can bear to think about 2016. but anything is possible is what i would say at this point. here is the thing about joe biden, he has street credit. think about when he went to the naacp. he felt he was natural and he had credibility with the audience. he was able to talk about the things that mattered to the audience. that is part of what he has brought to the white house. he was also a part of the foreign...
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now, to vice president joe biden, who found himself in an unfamiliar situation today. momentarily speechless. here he is on "morning joe" along with the sarah palin clip he's reacting to. let's listen. >> if you ran for president, could you beat barack obama? >> i believe so. >> well -- [ laughter ] well, look, i -- i, i, i -- you'll get me in trouble. >> okay, okay. >> i don't think she could beat president obama but you know she's always underestimated so you know i think -- i think i shouldn't say anymore. >> speaking of 2012, the des moines register gives a blunt assessment of newt gingrich's chances. the paper's political columnist writes, quote, he may be intellectually gifted but gingrich's no rock star. he's 67 and looks his age. he's working on the paunch with a personal trainer but he can't match palin or mississippi governor barbour when it comes to charisma. ouch. and tonight's big number. how much will it cost to run for president? republican leaders estimate that the minimum amount of money a gop candidate will need to run for president in 2012, $35 milli
now, to vice president joe biden, who found himself in an unfamiliar situation today. momentarily speechless. here he is on "morning joe" along with the sarah palin clip he's reacting to. let's listen. >> if you ran for president, could you beat barack obama? >> i believe so. >> well -- [ laughter ] well, look, i -- i, i, i -- you'll get me in trouble. >> okay, okay. >> i don't think she could beat president obama but you know she's always underestimated...
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that was joe biden in a town hall meeting. that came after a question asking if an assault weapons ban would prevent people from defending themselves. >> if the shooter in tucson had a ten-round magazine instead of a 30-round magazine, little granddaughter of a friend of mine from wilmington, delaware, who used to manage the philadelphia phillies, she would be alive today because when he was changing his magazine, a woman leaned over in the crowd and knocked his arm and that's how they subdued him. that makes a difference. it wouldn't have saved everybody. it wouldn't have saved everybody, but the last two people shot would be alive. >> let's try to disentangle the strange role he's playing. he's talking about get yourself a shotgun. he said it twice. i'm going to teach my wife to use it. get out on our balcony in our leafy neighborhood. let off a couple of shots. this is what he's saying. let it off around the guy who's getting in your house. this is pretty weird. this isn't liberal talk. this isn't a big city "we're against
that was joe biden in a town hall meeting. that came after a question asking if an assault weapons ban would prevent people from defending themselves. >> if the shooter in tucson had a ten-round magazine instead of a 30-round magazine, little granddaughter of a friend of mine from wilmington, delaware, who used to manage the philadelphia phillies, she would be alive today because when he was changing his magazine, a woman leaned over in the crowd and knocked his arm and that's how they...
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people who thought that joe biden was kind of a rude guy before the debate, they still think. that reinforced it. do you really think that the 17 undecided voters left in iowa or ohio who saw that debate and went that joe biden, man, he sure is mean. i'm not voting for him. >> it probably didn't have a great impact. actually, i do think the debates have mattered an awful lot. "new york times" today nate silver, hardly a conservative reporting that really the race has taken a very different trajectory. that bounce after the first debate is continuing on. there has been about a four or five-point shift in the race following that debate. i don't think like some people on the right that that is permanent or that that is a lock. but the race changed fundamentally after that debate. and the president's job next tuesday is see if he can change it back. >> kevin, what does the president to v to do on tuesday to do that? >> the president has to decide if he still wants to be president. i mean that bizarre performance. >> he needs the fire in the belly. >> that bizarre performance signa
people who thought that joe biden was kind of a rude guy before the debate, they still think. that reinforced it. do you really think that the 17 undecided voters left in iowa or ohio who saw that debate and went that joe biden, man, he sure is mean. i'm not voting for him. >> it probably didn't have a great impact. actually, i do think the debates have mattered an awful lot. "new york times" today nate silver, hardly a conservative reporting that really the race has taken a...
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paul ryan's first debate with vice president joe biden, that's about two weeks away. what are you hearing about his debate preparation? >> the voters we run into, they are looking forward to seeing paul ryan debate vice president biden that is on thursday october 11th in danville, kentucky. this week paul ryan, he's got some campaigning to do monday in iowa, four stop there'sment and then he is going to go to virginia for a three-day boot camp, if you will, debate camp, wednesday, thursday, friday. he is going the watch the presidential debate on wed night, and then he'll be with his team with that intensive 72-hour period trying to get prepared for joe biden. both sides are crediting the other's with being very good debaters. paul ryan, this is a big step up for him from a congressman to the national stage. he is going up against a formidable opponent in joe biden who has been in the political world for 40 years. so both sides are saying that the other's are really good and they're not taking them for granted. he is prepared and he has been getting briefings on a fai
paul ryan's first debate with vice president joe biden, that's about two weeks away. what are you hearing about his debate preparation? >> the voters we run into, they are looking forward to seeing paul ryan debate vice president biden that is on thursday october 11th in danville, kentucky. this week paul ryan, he's got some campaigning to do monday in iowa, four stop there'sment and then he is going to go to virginia for a three-day boot camp, if you will, debate camp, wednesday,...
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only 34% feel that joe biden. so is really expectation more on paul ryan more than joe biden contrary to what has been discussed so far? >> i think it will be interesting to see what happens. a lot of this happens in the moment. it all depends about the chemistry between them and the moderate to have, the audience, how the questions go and what's most important is for both those gentlemen to really be in the moment to really think about their answers, and to make sure they getting across specific points that they want to getting across. >> again, watching the live pictures -- rather the tape that just came in of paul ryan arriving at the location. i want to pivot to the polls. when we look at those numbers, this new round of polling showing that the president falling short of that 50% marker that so many watch specifically in florida and virginia. and democrats, their enthusiasm already seems to be suffering in the wake of last week. what will numbers under 50 do to the enthusiasm surrounding tonight's debate as w
only 34% feel that joe biden. so is really expectation more on paul ryan more than joe biden contrary to what has been discussed so far? >> i think it will be interesting to see what happens. a lot of this happens in the moment. it all depends about the chemistry between them and the moderate to have, the audience, how the questions go and what's most important is for both those gentlemen to really be in the moment to really think about their answers, and to make sure they getting across...
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every time we talk about this, we are impugning the advantages of joe biden. believe he is not going to like it, not going to believe the president doesn't want to hurt him. >> i'm certainly not one to impugn joe biden, the most important person since bill clinton on the campaign trail. be campaigner in chief and is so you have the president tied one foreign policy challenges. joe biden has been out there campaigns in places that barack obama can't go. not to say that joe biden isn't a great partner, it is just to say that is out there in the ether. >> let he say something -- first give more reporting, david axelrod, probably the president's closer adviser in the white house now. "there is absolutely nothing to it the president blessed to have a spectacular vice president and outstanding secretary of state. they are both doing great work. and he wants to keep them on the job." here is something i think we have to dissemble here, hillary clinton, given her age and he having else could quite well run for president in 2016, win or lose next time, she is still eye
every time we talk about this, we are impugning the advantages of joe biden. believe he is not going to like it, not going to believe the president doesn't want to hurt him. >> i'm certainly not one to impugn joe biden, the most important person since bill clinton on the campaign trail. be campaigner in chief and is so you have the president tied one foreign policy challenges. joe biden has been out there campaigns in places that barack obama can't go. not to say that joe biden isn't a...
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every time we talk about this, we are impugning the advantages of joe biden. believe he is not going to like it, not going to believe the president doesn't want to hurt him. >> i'm certainly not one to impugn joe biden, the most important person since bill clinton on the campaign trail. be campaigner in chief and is so you have the president tied one foreign policy challenges. joe biden has been out there campaigns in places that barack obama can't go. not to say that joe biden isn't a great partner, it is just to say that is out there in the ether. >> let he say something -- first give more reporting, david axelrod, probably the president's closer adviser in the white house now. "there is absolutely nothing to it the president blessed to have a spectacular vice president and outstanding secretary of state. they are both doing great work. and he wants to keep them on the job." here is something i think we have to dissemble here, hillary clinton, given her age and he having else could quite well run for president in 2016, win or lose next time, she is still eye
every time we talk about this, we are impugning the advantages of joe biden. believe he is not going to like it, not going to believe the president doesn't want to hurt him. >> i'm certainly not one to impugn joe biden, the most important person since bill clinton on the campaign trail. be campaigner in chief and is so you have the president tied one foreign policy challenges. joe biden has been out there campaigns in places that barack obama can't go. not to say that joe biden isn't a...
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joe biden as jonathan writes in his piece were the joe biden of the early days in the senate as his times of a candidate in 1988 would be stunned and maybe is stunned if he saw what it's like today. when he was a candidate in '88, he was widely accessible. he was widely accessible in 2008 amongst the most fun to cover candidates i've covered. he's come a long way now. he is more coastered than back then. he's less than anyone running in big time politics today. the notion his staff can control him very much is very farfetched. he's more open and available to the press. again he's far less accessible. i approached him in vegas. i was the only to get to him. he answered one question. nothing like it would have been if he would have went semicoc n semicocooned. >> here's a video you provided us before you were told to shut off the camera. >> mr. vice president, can i ask you a question? how are you? what do you think of governor romney's idea of the administration putting off the sequester for a year within an agreement? >> thank you. >> i think we should act. we can act now and get it done.
joe biden as jonathan writes in his piece were the joe biden of the early days in the senate as his times of a candidate in 1988 would be stunned and maybe is stunned if he saw what it's like today. when he was a candidate in '88, he was widely accessible. he was widely accessible in 2008 amongst the most fun to cover candidates i've covered. he's come a long way now. he is more coastered than back then. he's less than anyone running in big time politics today. the notion his staff can control...
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he's not the guy to do this deal, joe biden is. the governor is right, when you get specific about things like high-capacity magazines, people want them limited. there's no question. in general, if you state it generally, people are confused because they know it's a constitutional right. but if you're specific, then the equation changes, and that's what the vice president is going to try to do. >> ironically it's like pro-life and pro-gun. very ironic. it's a generalized statement. >> exactly. interestingly, originally joe biden was not going to report, was not going to make his case to the president until after the state of the union, until after -- excuse me, until after the inaugural address. i think they're moving up the schedule of this because i think the president is, in fact, going to feature it in -- he's going to mention it in the inaugural -- >> is this legacy material? >> this is legacy material. also, it's not money material. in other words, we're broke as a country. there's going to be a big fight over the debt. we're
he's not the guy to do this deal, joe biden is. the governor is right, when you get specific about things like high-capacity magazines, people want them limited. there's no question. in general, if you state it generally, people are confused because they know it's a constitutional right. but if you're specific, then the equation changes, and that's what the vice president is going to try to do. >> ironically it's like pro-life and pro-gun. very ironic. it's a generalized statement....
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joe biden also addressed the part of the book where biden reportedly called richard holbrooke "the most egotist cal bastard i ever met." >> it may not shock you that people talk about dixie just about they talking about my being too loquacious. they didn't say the end of the sentence. i told the president he's the best man for the job. he should have the job. this is one of the most talented diplomats we've had in 30 years. he's been my friend for 35 years. i think he's the right guy for the job. and so richard knows that. >> just to be clear, he is one. >> bob woodward will be on "morning joe" tomorrow for his first cable interview for that new book that caused such a stir. in last night's interview, the vice president also revised comments he made earlier in the day that the democratic party's base should "stop whining." that's a quote. speaking at a fund-raiser in new hampshire yesterday for three congressional candidates, biden said democrats should "remind our base constituency to stop whining and get out there and look at the alternatives." last night biden dialed back that critic
joe biden also addressed the part of the book where biden reportedly called richard holbrooke "the most egotist cal bastard i ever met." >> it may not shock you that people talk about dixie just about they talking about my being too loquacious. they didn't say the end of the sentence. i told the president he's the best man for the job. he should have the job. this is one of the most talented diplomats we've had in 30 years. he's been my friend for 35 years. i think he's the...
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joe biden is an ordinary fella in many ways. he's somebody you'd likely meet on a golf course or a bowling alley. in other words, he wouldn't be out of place with a group of pennsylvania deer hunters. if you don't believe me, go see the movie, "deer hunter." it's a classic. so i'm confident closing the gun show loophole, gun safety and doing something about those high-capacity gun clips. it's going to be something reasonable hunters and second amendment fighters will find sensible. the more people have a say in writing the law, the better the law, the fewer the people, the worse the law. big corporations, for example, shouldn't write corporate fax law. and gun owners shouldn't be the only people involved in gun law. anybody can be
joe biden is an ordinary fella in many ways. he's somebody you'd likely meet on a golf course or a bowling alley. in other words, he wouldn't be out of place with a group of pennsylvania deer hunters. if you don't believe me, go see the movie, "deer hunter." it's a classic. so i'm confident closing the gun show loophole, gun safety and doing something about those high-capacity gun clips. it's going to be something reasonable hunters and second amendment fighters will find sensible....
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he's not joe biden. he's never given in the campaign so far as passionate the way joe biden did the other night. he has to do that. he has to be as convincing, probably more. he has to look like he wants it, like he's enjoying it as much as joe biden. >> like he wants to actually be there, be in the debate. >> and wants the job. >> we've seen a shake-up of sorts in the polls here lately with governor romney gaining some ground. today's tracking poll shows that mitt romney is now lead big two points there among likely voters. the romney camp pushing it. how much success are they having with that part of the debate. with the again benn ga city stuff? >> definitely. you saw it coming into and out of that vice-presidential debate. paul ryan had the branding as this economic policy wonk and yet the first question that he faced was the administration's handling of the libyan attack and the assault on benghazi and he ended up taking the case to the vice president through the beginning of that debate and that's
he's not joe biden. he's never given in the campaign so far as passionate the way joe biden did the other night. he has to do that. he has to be as convincing, probably more. he has to look like he wants it, like he's enjoying it as much as joe biden. >> like he wants to actually be there, be in the debate. >> and wants the job. >> we've seen a shake-up of sorts in the polls here lately with governor romney gaining some ground. today's tracking poll shows that mitt romney is...
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i think this is teed up perfectly for joe biden. all the things we talked about last week we wished the president might have thrown at mitt romney or asked mitt romney about are even better for ryan. it was paul ryan who was confronted with chris wallace asking him about the math of the budget plan, was the one who said i just don't have time to get into that. joe biden can say, i'd like to give you all the time you need, take all the time you need, congressman ryan, and tell us which deductions you two are going to close. he can confront him on the $716 billion that he also likewise cuts from medicare. >> identical number. >> identical number. that's a wonderful thing to be teed up for vice president biden, and he can also just come at him on the issue of entitlements generally. paul ryan is somebody who apparently saved the survivor benefits that he got from social security, used them to go to a good college, and now has been a long-time advocate of privatizing social security. >> i just wish joe biden would at some point ask the
i think this is teed up perfectly for joe biden. all the things we talked about last week we wished the president might have thrown at mitt romney or asked mitt romney about are even better for ryan. it was paul ryan who was confronted with chris wallace asking him about the math of the budget plan, was the one who said i just don't have time to get into that. joe biden can say, i'd like to give you all the time you need, take all the time you need, congressman ryan, and tell us which...
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they had honest joe t shirts they rolled out with this comment and a picture of joe biden. you've seen this do this, take comments out of context and run with them. they did that with the "you didn't build that" comment from president obama. i don't know how far it goes. it's a news cycle we find something to talk about every single day and it's hard to believe this will actually last. i do think something will come up in the debate, i imagine romney will quote joe biden saying the last four years haven't been so great, and ryan's 30% comment will come up tonight or debates in the coming weeks. >> my take on biden gaffes, they're no harm so, therefore, no foul. the republicans have been caught saying very serious stuff on tape they didn't want anybody to hear. these aren't mistakes in public. it's when you're caught you don't want anybody to know about except the chosen few who gave 50,000 bucks to hear you. here's a tape of paul ryan saying 30% of americans want a welfare base, they want to live off the hog, basically. sounds like mitt romney's comments about 47%. >> today
they had honest joe t shirts they rolled out with this comment and a picture of joe biden. you've seen this do this, take comments out of context and run with them. they did that with the "you didn't build that" comment from president obama. i don't know how far it goes. it's a news cycle we find something to talk about every single day and it's hard to believe this will actually last. i do think something will come up in the debate, i imagine romney will quote joe biden saying the...
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. >>> up next, vice president joe biden gave a very diplomatic response after listening to sarah palin say she could beat barack obama. stick around for the side show. [ male announcer ] for fastidious librarian emily skinner, each day was fueled by thorough preparation for events to come. well somewhere along the way, emily went right on living. but you see, with the help of her raymond james financial advisor, she had planned for every eventuality. which meant she continued to have...
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joe biden has to not only defend the president and attack paul ryan for his libertarian ideas, joe biden has to defend social security and medicare and the very idea of the usefulness and the importance of government in sharing responsibility in america, a big, heavy lift for joe biden tomorrow night. >> it's a heavy lift, howard, i agree, but it's also right in his wheelhouse. everyone in this country knows his middle class background. he is true to his value of helping the middle class. he legislated that way for 30 years in the senate. some think that joe biden's been put in an untenable position, a tough position. but isn't this good for biden? and i think for the president to come out and say joe's got to be joe, that's kind of saying, joe, you go out there and let them have it, isn't it? >> well, yeah, and joe biden, after all, was in the senate for 37 years. he was very much a part of the democratic party establishment and democratic party ideology about the role of helping the poor and the middle class through cooperative effort and through government programs. and he's going to
joe biden has to not only defend the president and attack paul ryan for his libertarian ideas, joe biden has to defend social security and medicare and the very idea of the usefulness and the importance of government in sharing responsibility in america, a big, heavy lift for joe biden tomorrow night. >> it's a heavy lift, howard, i agree, but it's also right in his wheelhouse. everyone in this country knows his middle class background. he is true to his value of helping the middle class....
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joe biden won 51-30. he dominated the guy. i think he offered him an internship after it was all over. the fact of the matter is he dominated him. people can talk about joe biden. but what i think people like about him is he's authentic. the one thing about joe biden is you believe what he was telling you. the only thing we really know about mitt romney, this unchanging, is that he wants to be president of the united states of america. at a time when people are craving authenticity, i think joe biden delivered for the president. i think he activated the democratic base. and i think you'll see it in this week's numbers. >> governor, what do you think we learned about paul ryan? >> well, let me first say joe biden is authentic. and last week he said two important things to every voter. one, that the middle class has been buried during the last four years. of course, he's been in charge the last four years. number two, that absolutely obama and biden are going to raise your taxes about $2 trillion over the next four years. so wha
joe biden won 51-30. he dominated the guy. i think he offered him an internship after it was all over. the fact of the matter is he dominated him. people can talk about joe biden. but what i think people like about him is he's authentic. the one thing about joe biden is you believe what he was telling you. the only thing we really know about mitt romney, this unchanging, is that he wants to be president of the united states of america. at a time when people are craving authenticity, i think joe...
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plus joe biden stuck it to mitt romney in an op-ed piece saying mitt romney would double down on the very policy, the economic policies that actually caused the great recession. we're going to talk to the "hardball" strategists about what romney and the other republican hopefuls need to do between now and the iowa caucuses january 3 to seal the deal. >>> also, what republican turned down desperate pleas he run for president won't say no when it comes to being a v.p., that's in the "side show," and it's our last show before christmas. that means it's time for the new york magazine critic david and me to go over or top movies of the year. many have political issues. >>> we start with president obama playing "hardball." michael steele is here, and he's dressed in fine christmas fare. new dress code, bob, you're in your usual suit. i see no sign of christmas on you, except -- >> it's red, it's red, chris. >> red, pink -- >> we have decked the halls with bows of holly here, and you, sir, are pathetically pink. >> i wouldn't wear that coat that michael has on. he wears it well. >> let's li
plus joe biden stuck it to mitt romney in an op-ed piece saying mitt romney would double down on the very policy, the economic policies that actually caused the great recession. we're going to talk to the "hardball" strategists about what romney and the other republican hopefuls need to do between now and the iowa caucuses january 3 to seal the deal. >>> also, what republican turned down desperate pleas he run for president won't say no when it comes to being a v.p., that's...
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also, momentuzzling joe biden. yes, he goes off message in terms of his language occasionally, but is it really necessary for his staff to keep trying to muzzle him? according to reporters, that's what's going on. and ohio republicans failed to respond, expand voter hours in republican areas. get it? keep democrats from voting. encourage republicans. boy, that's democracy. and finally, a new low in negative advertising. >> i'm mitt romney. americans say there's been too much negativity in this campaign and i agree. from now on, i pledge to focus on the positive. for instance, i'm positive that barack obama is a communist. >> that's positive. now, it's just a parody from jimmy kimmel that you'll see on the side show and this is "hardball." the place for politics. has become boring and tasteless... only one man can save the day... ♪ with his sweet and nutty, sweet and nutty crunchy nut ♪ delicious! [ male announcer ] kellogg's crunchy nut. it's super delicious. >>> new poll numbers in some key battleground states
also, momentuzzling joe biden. yes, he goes off message in terms of his language occasionally, but is it really necessary for his staff to keep trying to muzzle him? according to reporters, that's what's going on. and ohio republicans failed to respond, expand voter hours in republican areas. get it? keep democrats from voting. encourage republicans. boy, that's democracy. and finally, a new low in negative advertising. >> i'm mitt romney. americans say there's been too much negativity in...
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you're not going to rattle joe biden. joe biden has been on the national stage, ran for president twice, sitting vice president. >> ryan's right. biden is no stranger to the national stage or debate stage. >> with regard to my experience, hey, bill, 1979, i was -- i led a delegation of 19 senators negotiating the start agreement with bresh nef, involved in bosnia as the first lady and now senator clinton will tell you, i've been negotiating while you were in congress, man. i introduced the first public financing bill. if you had been around long enough -- maybe i've been around. they forget all the wonderful thing i've done here. but anyway -- >> he also sparred in this ring four years ago when he duked it out with sarah palin at the university of washington in st. louis in front of 69 million viewers. which biden will show up this week. will it be the funny man? >> editorial in the los angeles times said, in addition to his uncontrolled verbosity, biden is a gaffe machine. can you reassure voters in this country you woul
you're not going to rattle joe biden. joe biden has been on the national stage, ran for president twice, sitting vice president. >> ryan's right. biden is no stranger to the national stage or debate stage. >> with regard to my experience, hey, bill, 1979, i was -- i led a delegation of 19 senators negotiating the start agreement with bresh nef, involved in bosnia as the first lady and now senator clinton will tell you, i've been negotiating while you were in congress, man. i...
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you certainly hear that from people like joe biden. other people who had been in the senate for years, that something has changed. we could talk about all the things that have changed in the intervening years, whether it's television and the blogosphere. >> a lot of people will blame us and the media. >> and the money. >> there's a lot of fingers pointed in a lot of directions. at the end of the day when youed read evan bayh's statement, it's as much an indictment on the leader, harry reid and mcconnell, not those two individually but you need the filibuster to be a minority party. both sides used it to their advantage when they were in the minority. >> i was very struck with the fact he cited bipartisan congressional commission and cited the failure to proceed with the jobs bill, which was purely harry reid. >> look, senate democrats are shell shocked by this. obviously they have left him in a political lurch in indiana. they have to figure out how to appoint one. they are not going to get one by filing deadline. it's a mess he's left
you certainly hear that from people like joe biden. other people who had been in the senate for years, that something has changed. we could talk about all the things that have changed in the intervening years, whether it's television and the blogosphere. >> a lot of people will blame us and the media. >> and the money. >> there's a lot of fingers pointed in a lot of directions. at the end of the day when youed read evan bayh's statement, it's as much an indictment on the...
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sure, joe biden running the group is a perfect choice for the white house. but i just don't get it. i can't imagine that room getting anywhere without you. >> well, it's kind of you to say. but you know nobody is irreplaceable around the united states senate and the house of representatives. and it's unclear to me what's going to happen to that group. but, you know, we just continue working away in this group of six trying to come up with a substantive proposal that through whatever means can get before our colleagues for their consideration. >> i mean, is the leader's thinking that it's better to leave chairman conrad working with this group of six, because that group is up and running and maybe it can make its own headway and let's create another group run by joe biden with bipartisan members? let's have two fronts going? is that the theory of this? >> i don't really know. what i do know is that i served on the president's commission where we have the only bipartisan plan that's emerged from any source, and that commission as you know got -- of the 18 members 11 to agree, five dem
sure, joe biden running the group is a perfect choice for the white house. but i just don't get it. i can't imagine that room getting anywhere without you. >> well, it's kind of you to say. but you know nobody is irreplaceable around the united states senate and the house of representatives. and it's unclear to me what's going to happen to that group. but, you know, we just continue working away in this group of six trying to come up with a substantive proposal that through whatever means...
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-- barack obama is pretty solid with joe biden. joe biden is out there campaigning really hard. and some biden supporters will tell you it's all well and good that hillary has terrific numbers right now. because she's secretary of state, which is a nice, positive job trying to bring world peace and not dealing with unemployment and the health care bill and all the other difficult political issues that have hurt barack obama and joe biden's standing in the country. i don't, i don't think it's a serious thing right now. now hillary wanting to be president of the united states? there's no doubt about it. james carville and there's nobody much closer to the clintons than james carville. told me of course hillary would probably like to run again, would like to lead the country, but not through the vice presidential route, unless barack obama asks her to. and i think if you think of the relationship between barack obama and the clintons, it's not likely, especially since he, obama, still has a good relationship with joe biden. >> let's a
-- barack obama is pretty solid with joe biden. joe biden is out there campaigning really hard. and some biden supporters will tell you it's all well and good that hillary has terrific numbers right now. because she's secretary of state, which is a nice, positive job trying to bring world peace and not dealing with unemployment and the health care bill and all the other difficult political issues that have hurt barack obama and joe biden's standing in the country. i don't, i don't think it's a...
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biden was recounting earlier, he told joe biden he was taking a step down and did he want to leave the senate to become vice president. >> there's a lot of dumping on the u.s. senate these days and not only did byrd believe in it as an institution. he was constantly infusing his everyday work with the spirit of the constitution. it could be very frustrating and he could be extremely stubborn and he was not the most popular senator with his colleagues by any means. sometimes they'd run up against him on a particular constitutional or parliamentary point and they would have to retreat because he knew a lot more about it than they did and he had more power than most other senators as you saw when joe biden called him "leader." he was not only a formidable figure in the modernier ieera, going back 40 years. we're not going see his likes again any time soon. >> and one really remembers his emotionally overwrought reaction to ted kennedy's collapse at the inaugural luncheon. there you had -- you know, senator kennedy collapsing, the president having just being sworn in and bobby byrd in his
biden was recounting earlier, he told joe biden he was taking a step down and did he want to leave the senate to become vice president. >> there's a lot of dumping on the u.s. senate these days and not only did byrd believe in it as an institution. he was constantly infusing his everyday work with the spirit of the constitution. it could be very frustrating and he could be extremely stubborn and he was not the most popular senator with his colleagues by any means. sometimes they'd run up...
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joe biden always does say what he means. and when he really says what he means, when he really let's loose, it can be a powerful thing. watch. >> people say to me now, and i wonder now, whatever gave you the courage as a 29-year-old kid to announce to the united states senate against a man who had an 82% favorable rating, in a year when we knew it was going to be tough. what gave you the courage to run? or some thought, what made you some fool hardy. the answer, you girls should know this, was your father. your father. i didn't know him when i announced through the senate. but i honest to god believed that i could maybe go help him end this war. i honest to god believed that. what people don't realize, had your father not been there, had your father never been in the senate, so much more blood, so much more treasure would have been wasted. the war would have never ended when it did. it would have never ended how it did. your father gave courage to people who didn't have the courage to speak up, to finally stand up. your fath
joe biden always does say what he means. and when he really says what he means, when he really let's loose, it can be a powerful thing. watch. >> people say to me now, and i wonder now, whatever gave you the courage as a 29-year-old kid to announce to the united states senate against a man who had an 82% favorable rating, in a year when we knew it was going to be tough. what gave you the courage to run? or some thought, what made you some fool hardy. the answer, you girls should know...
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joe biden out there today campaigning about it. it looks like it's going to be a very important part of the campaign. take a look at this. >> a lot of conventional wisdom wanted to do what mitt romney did, let it go, can't be saved, why put good money after bad? >> everybody, democrats, republicans, i mean, it was overwhelming. look at the polling number. do not rescue the automobile industry. >> the president faced a real risk either way he went. he fails to invest in the auto industry, it implodes, the economy goes further down, and blood is on his hands. the president invests, and the auto industry just can't pull it out. that's on the president's hands as well. >> but he knew who it would hurt the most. and how devastating the loss of a job can be to an entire family. >> my grandparents taught me that a job is about more than just a paycheck. they grew up during the depression, so they tell me about seeing their fathers or their uncles losing jobs. even if you have a strong spirit, if you're out of work for a long time, it can
joe biden out there today campaigning about it. it looks like it's going to be a very important part of the campaign. take a look at this. >> a lot of conventional wisdom wanted to do what mitt romney did, let it go, can't be saved, why put good money after bad? >> everybody, democrats, republicans, i mean, it was overwhelming. look at the polling number. do not rescue the automobile industry. >> the president faced a real risk either way he went. he fails to invest in the...
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did joe biden -- joe biden do what joe biden had to do last night? were you, as a washington guy that's been around this for a long time, did you find it off-putting, or do you think it was called for? >> i think joe was joe. and when you're yourself, it usually helps in politics. look, it's going to lend itself to some great scenes on "saturday night live" and other late-night comedians. i agree with mark halperin on that. but i don't think it was like al gore in 2000, which mark will remember. al gore looked arrogant and condescending and elitist. what joe was, joe was scrappy at times, rude, feisty. i think that's what he needed to do last night. i think he could have done without a few smirks. he could have done without a few interruptions. but i don't think it really hurt him. and i think when you talk about style, joe, one of the things we ought to consider is, as barack obama goes into that now very important debate next tuesday, the format's a town hall. and that makes it a little bit harder for him to be tough and challenging romney because
did joe biden -- joe biden do what joe biden had to do last night? were you, as a washington guy that's been around this for a long time, did you find it off-putting, or do you think it was called for? >> i think joe was joe. and when you're yourself, it usually helps in politics. look, it's going to lend itself to some great scenes on "saturday night live" and other late-night comedians. i agree with mark halperin on that. but i don't think it was like al gore in 2000, which...
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is the white house not using joe biden to best effect? are they afraid to have joe biden go out and do interviews? >> i don't think so at all. i think joe biden is out there at campaign stops all over the country. he draws big crowds and everybody is very enthusiastic to have him. joe biden is a great leader in our country. he's authentic. he says it the way he sees it. >> if the president is re-elected, if he is or if he isn't, is joe biden a likely contender in 2016 if he wants to, or would you expect that hillary clinton or some of the younger faces we've seen, corey booker going to the iowa delegation breakfast the other day or today, rather, is a key indicator? >> we have many good choices in the democratic party but let's get through this election first and elect this extraordinary president who in no ordinary time was able to pull us from the brink of depression, job creator from day one, more jobs in the private sector in one year than in the eight years of the bush administration. one election at a time. >> democratic leader nanc
is the white house not using joe biden to best effect? are they afraid to have joe biden go out and do interviews? >> i don't think so at all. i think joe biden is out there at campaign stops all over the country. he draws big crowds and everybody is very enthusiastic to have him. joe biden is a great leader in our country. he's authentic. he says it the way he sees it. >> if the president is re-elected, if he is or if he isn't, is joe biden a likely contender in 2016 if he wants...
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this is something joe biden was interested in in the first place. they had 50% of the people they needed to train the afghans. that is a crucial part. the other part that is just as important is how they treat the afghans to win their respect. i said general mcchrystal, there is no way you can do this. you are not going to have three years. you have a lot less time. if the president makes his decision to increase the troops you have a lot less time. the british general understood that. he was a two star working for general mcchrystal. he said we've got to the spring. we have to show progress. >> are you concerned the more troops we send to afghanistan the higher the casualty rate. could we be creating to put it blunty more targets for the taliban and ieds? >> historically, the british were forced out the russians were forced out. the more troops you put out there the more targets there are going to be. the main thing is this essential to our national security? is al qaeda so dangerous they are affecting our national security? we are going to have he
this is something joe biden was interested in in the first place. they had 50% of the people they needed to train the afghans. that is a crucial part. the other part that is just as important is how they treat the afghans to win their respect. i said general mcchrystal, there is no way you can do this. you are not going to have three years. you have a lot less time. if the president makes his decision to increase the troops you have a lot less time. the british general understood that. he was a...
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which side is joe biden on? more from my interview with the vice president. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. lord of the carry-on. sovereign of the security line. you never take an upgrade for granted. and you rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. and go. you can even take a full-size or above. and still pay the mid-size price. i deserve this. [ male announcer ] you do, business pro. you do. go national. go like a pro. >>> last week senate majority leader harry reid postponed the discussion of tax cut extensions until after the election. speaker nancy pelosi has yet to announce if the house will tackle the issue before congress add jurjourns friday. if they squeezed in a vote before the last session it would be symbolic because there's no chance of taking up the bill before the election. vice president biden just told us he respects the judgment on the legislative strategy of the tax cuts. continuing with me now is keith olbermann. keith, i know too much. i've
which side is joe biden on? more from my interview with the vice president. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. lord of the carry-on. sovereign of the security line. you never take an upgrade for granted. and you rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. and go. you can even take a full-size or above. and still pay the mid-size price. i deserve this. [ male announcer ] you do, business pro. you do. go national. go like a pro. >>> last week...
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which side is joe biden on? more from my interview with the vice president. o has been saving people money on rv, camper and trailer insurance... ...as well as motorcycle insurance... gecko: oh...sorry, technical difficulties. boss: uh...what about this? gecko: what's this one do? gecko: um...maybe that one. ♪ dance music boss: ok, let's keep rolling. we're on motorcycle insurance. vo: take fifteen minutes to see how much you can save on motorcycle, rv, and camper insurance. >>> last week senate majority leader harry reid postponed the discussion of tax cut extensions until after the election. speaker nancy pelosi has yet to announce if the house will tackle the issue before congress adjourns friday. if they squeezed in a vote before the last session it would be symbolic because there's no chance of taking up the bill before the election. vice president biden just told us he respects the judgment on the legislative strategy of the tax cuts. continuing with me now is keith olbermann. keith, i know too much. i've strategized tax bills in the senate when i was
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quote, she wants the brains of george clooney and the body of joe biden. well, in last night's episode she got part of that equation. take a look. >> you must be leslie knope. welcome. welcome. >> my name just came out of your mouth. >> well, yeah, it did. i'm delighted to have you here. on behalf of the president and myself i want -- >> mr. vice president, i am deeply flattered, but there's no way i could take over madam secretary clinton's position. >> i'm confident you could do that job or any other, but the reason -- >> okay, i will. >> well, the reason you're here is i'm told you've done such a great job in your town and in the state of indiana, and i just want to say congratulations for your public service. >> i just want to say thank you. you're very handsome. >> you're very nice but -- >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. we'll see you tomorrow. >> well -- you will? >> you don't let anything happen to him. do you understand me? he's precious cargo. >> wow. biden's cameo is from last summer. it might have needed a little twe
quote, she wants the brains of george clooney and the body of joe biden. well, in last night's episode she got part of that equation. take a look. >> you must be leslie knope. welcome. welcome. >> my name just came out of your mouth. >> well, yeah, it did. i'm delighted to have you here. on behalf of the president and myself i want -- >> mr. vice president, i am deeply flattered, but there's no way i could take over madam secretary clinton's position. >> i'm...
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. >> joe biden addressed the association about the politics. >> people are tired are being tired. then they are ready to get up and move. you know that. it's happening in your states. you probably feel in your fingertips more than most of us do here in washington. i think they are so frustrated by what they see and don't see happening here in washington. i think their frustration is turning into a bit of anger. >> in homeland security secretary, janet napolitano will make it more difficult to minimize the risk of terrorism. >> the automatic budget reduction mandated by sequestration would be disruptive to our nation's security and economy. it would negatively affect the mission readiness of the men and women on the front lines. >> joining us now, politico's editor and chief, john. four days left. any way to avoid the cuts? >> i don't think so. both parties made calculations not in their interest to negotiate. there's nothing to negotiate about. if so, trust for the other side. i think, as you say, a midnight deal is always possible, part particularly with republican governors. the
. >> joe biden addressed the association about the politics. >> people are tired are being tired. then they are ready to get up and move. you know that. it's happening in your states. you probably feel in your fingertips more than most of us do here in washington. i think they are so frustrated by what they see and don't see happening here in washington. i think their frustration is turning into a bit of anger. >> in homeland security secretary, janet napolitano will make it...
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. >>> vice president joe biden called to congratulate martin walsh. just one problem, he called the wrong marty walsh and he wasn't the only one who made that mistake. if you have a business idea, we have a personalized legal solution that's right for you. with easy step-by-step guidance, we're here to help you turn your dream into a reality. start your business today with legalzoom. >>> it's time for your "first look" at this morning's dish of scrambled politics. the house will measure workplace discrimination based on gentder identity is sexual orientation. >>> will the real marty walsh please stand up? vice president joe biden called the man he thought was boston mayor-elect to congratulate him. he said, you son of a gun, marty. you did it. problem is, it was this marty walsh, a former aide to ted kennedy. he said guys with that name are a dime a dozen in boston. florida congressman debbie wasserman schultz and rybak also did the same thing. >>> the meeting was reportedly very cordial and productive between bloomberg and mayor-elect de blasio. but
. >>> vice president joe biden called to congratulate martin walsh. just one problem, he called the wrong marty walsh and he wasn't the only one who made that mistake. if you have a business idea, we have a personalized legal solution that's right for you. with easy step-by-step guidance, we're here to help you turn your dream into a reality. start your business today with legalzoom. >>> it's time for your "first look" at this morning's dish of scrambled politics....
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the stakes are raised now for the paul ryan versus joe biden debate. the obama campaign i don't think can afford the perception that they lost two in a row. i would think vice president joe biden's fingernails are beginning to sweat about next wednesday because he's somewhat in the same position as president obama. he's been vice president in for four years. had a lot of things going. been a long time since he's debated. paul ryan has been in the cut and thrust of congress, to be better prepared. however, ryan is in the shoes president obama was in last night and the expectations are high for ryan. i think most people feel that paul ryan will walk joe biden's dog in this debate, and that's a down for him. i would venture that the vice presidential debate may get the largest audience of any vice presidential deda debate we've d so far. >> in 2008 with the introduction of sarah palin was the first time the vice presidential debate was ever the highest ratest debarate e ed debate. we have this again. >> governor romney, last night, people say he mangled t
the stakes are raised now for the paul ryan versus joe biden debate. the obama campaign i don't think can afford the perception that they lost two in a row. i would think vice president joe biden's fingernails are beginning to sweat about next wednesday because he's somewhat in the same position as president obama. he's been vice president in for four years. had a lot of things going. been a long time since he's debated. paul ryan has been in the cut and thrust of congress, to be better...
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he's got to face joe biden next week. with all of the things that the new minted mitt romney said last night, joe biden who is a very feisty debater brings to ryan. doesn't ryan have a problem in the debate next week agreeing with some of the things that the new mitt romney came with last night? >> well, you know, we all yearn for good presidentivice preside debate, but the truth is they really don't matter if the quaylquayle-benson didn' matter, this won won't. >> we don't know if they don't matter. >> sarah palin, people watched it the way you watch a nascar race with a fascination that there may be an accident or a wreck. but with the debate coming up, there is this tension on the ticket, republican ticket, between paul ryan who campaigns and gave the speech remember at the convention, there was archly ideological about creating a new world that the president has described at darwinian and pessimistic and dark. and he gives joe biden a lot of lines of attack on the ryan budget, the medicare plan and all those things. t
he's got to face joe biden next week. with all of the things that the new minted mitt romney said last night, joe biden who is a very feisty debater brings to ryan. doesn't ryan have a problem in the debate next week agreeing with some of the things that the new mitt romney came with last night? >> well, you know, we all yearn for good presidentivice preside debate, but the truth is they really don't matter if the quaylquayle-benson didn' matter, this won won't. >> we don't know if...